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The Latest On Martin Frk

from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

Martin Frk may yet have a future with the Detroit Red Wings, but he will not receive a qualifying offer from the team.

Frk, 24, is a restricted free agent. He made $650,000 last season, and would have to be qualified at 110 percent of that by June 25 for the Wings to retain his rights. However, Frk has arbitration rights, and by risking going before an arbitrator, the Wings could end up paying more than $715,000 for Frk for a one-year contract....

He is an engaging player with a booming, right-handed shot, but where, for example, Alex Ovechkin always seems to find a hole, Frk tends to miss the net or the puck hits a player.

The Wings might offer Frk a contract as a free agent, but he could also explore going elsewhere. One possible destination is Dallas, where Frk’s former coach with Grand Rapids, Todd Nelson, is now an assistant coach.

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This organization is a *#$%@& joke.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 06/19/18 at 04:15 PM ET

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I won’t be upset when he doesn’t make the club.  I see him as another fringe NHL player who can score goals occasionally, but doesn’t bring anything else to his team. 

There are probably 3 guys in GR who could have his spot and bring just as much value without the waiver headaches.  Svech is probably the most likely.

Posted by TreKronor on 06/19/18 at 04:21 PM ET

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——who can score goals occasionally, but doesn’t bring anything else to his team.
——could be said about half of our forwards.

Posted by VPalmer on 06/19/18 at 04:35 PM ET

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Here’s an idea.

Before we bury Frk, maybe play him somewhere besides the 4th line and see what he can do?

I mean, unless we’re still playing Helm and Abdelkader in the Top 6 for some inexplicable reason…  I don’t get how people can complain about those two and then also be so ready to part with Frk.

Posted by Primis on 06/19/18 at 04:36 PM ET

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I now consider Helene and Kenny an all-time great comedy team. Much funnier than Nichols & May, Martin & Lewis, Belushi & Ackroyd, Key & Peele or Tiffany Haddish & anyone.

I love the bit about comparing Frk to Ovechkin and how Ovi “always seems to find a hole.” Talk about comparing apples to kumquats!

And the *GASP* possibility that they could have to pay Frk more than $715,000 on a one-year deal. Doesn’t Witkowski make more than that? But, oh yeah, he’s “great in the room.”

Hahahahahaha! These people are killing me!

Posted by Son of a Blash on 06/19/18 at 04:51 PM ET

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If Frk’s performance last year isn’t readily replaceable with someone in GR now, I’m not sure that I want to read much more about blocking prospects. To that end, yes, he’s probably worth 715k on an extended audition, but not much more. If that were to happen, by all means get him off of the fourth line, if he can keep up.

Posted by Back Hand Luke from The Land of Unhealthy Scratching on 06/19/18 at 04:54 PM ET

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Two things I’ll add:
1) Yes, move him up to the 1st or 2nd line to see what he’s got.  But then you’re going to lose production of someone else already on the 1st or 2nd lines.  I could score on the top two lines, so let’s be realistic - he either is or isn’t a 1st or 2nd line guy…and other than ripping a one timer he doesn’t seem cut out for the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line.

2) Speaking of “roadblocks”...in my opinion, that’s exactly what Frk is right now.  We have enough deadweight (with very bad contracts) in Helm, Abs, E52.  However bad we want them gone, they aren’t going to be moved.  We don’t need to add to the deadweight by giving a contract, however small it may be, to a player and having to dodge his waiver ineligibility all season instead of bringing up more promising prospects. 

3 (Bonus)) Shame on anyone who ever puts “Frk” and “Ovechkin” in the same paragraph (other than this one, of course).  The only comparison is that there is no comparison.  Frk is more like Damien Brunner, except Brunner could score more creatively.

Posted by TreKronor on 06/19/18 at 05:05 PM ET

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I was going to leave the Frk/Ovie comparison out, but though a few of you may get a laugh out of it, guess I was right.

Just imagine, if Frk has improved his shooting accuracy over the summer…..

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/19/18 at 05:07 PM ET

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There’s a perfect person to compare Frk to… Pulkkinen.

Posted by neffernin on 06/19/18 at 05:25 PM ET

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There’s a perfect person to compare Frk to… Pulkkinen.

Posted by neffernin on 06/19/18 at 05:25 PM ET

In that comparison, Frk wins hands down. At least he can get a shot off.

Posted by Son of a Blash on 06/19/18 at 05:34 PM ET

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1) Yes, move him up to the 1st or 2nd line to see what he’s got.  But then you’re going to lose production of someone else already on the 1st or 2nd lines.  I could score on the top two lines, so let’s be realistic - he either is or isn’t a 1st or 2nd line guy…and other than ripping a one timer he doesn’t seem cut out for the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line.

Did you SEE the team stats from last season?  “Oh no, who ever will replace 14-21 goals on a team that missed the playoffs?”.0

Frk scored 11 in 62 GP basically while buried in the Bottom Six.
AA had 16 in 72 GP.
Larkin had 16 in a full 82.
Nyquist had 21 in 82.
Abdelkader had 13 in 75.
Zetterberg had 11 in 82 GP.
Helm had 13 in 75.
Mantha led the team with 24 in 80 GP.
Bertuzzi is supposedly a success and he only had 7 in 48 GP.

You’re not exactly taking time from a 30 goal scorer anywhere there, save maybe Mantha clearly having room to improve.  You can bump a lot of those guys out of the Top Six without missing much.

No. there’s definitely room there to give Frk more Top 6 time and see if he can’t hit 20.  You clearly already know what you’re getting with Nyquist, Helm, Abdelkader, and Zetterberg, and if Frk can do that production cheaper than any of them, you win.

Posted by Primis on 06/19/18 at 07:10 PM ET

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If this means Helm gets more ice time I don’t think that’s any benefit. You have 2 spots right now one was Booth’s and the other was Tatar’s. So assuming Svech and Rass both make it then who is better than Frk in GR?  Puempel?, Turgeon?  I must be forgetting somebody. Must be a UFA like Vanik then.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/20/18 at 02:26 AM ET

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I’ll be alright with this as long as it means someone who was in GR last year gets a spot. It will be very disappointing when they sign Vanek who, sit down for this, scores goals and does nothing more, for 4x the cost

Posted by MZ2215 on 06/20/18 at 06:12 AM ET

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2) Speaking of “roadblocks”...in my opinion, that’s exactly what Frk is right now. 
Posted by TreKronor on 06/19/18 at 05:05 PM ET

Boom…

What is it with this fanbase that every prospect that has scored A goal must play a full season in our top 6 for a look? With Frk standing there, how does Svechnikov Rasmussen ever get that spot? I tend to think that they have more of a future and impact to this franchise than a guy whose been waived 2x but that’s just me.

I like Frk, I was a fan, I thought he had and has much more NHL ability then Turnover Pulkinen ever had, but that’s not saying much, Pulkinen was at best only a superstar in the hearts of HHHT, but a 2nd line player in the Czech leagues.  If we keep Frk it should be as a 13th/14th forward.

The notion that poor whittle Frk was buried on our 4th line, misused and abused is flat out comical. Dude got top billing on an NHL powerplay, cry me a river.  Going right into a top 6 role is difficult for any rookie let alone a guy who was thought so little of at the NHL level that he was waived 2x.

Like many of the one way offense only players this fanbase slobs over, Frk was a defensive liability, got pushed around in battles, and had no business being on the ice with a top 6 forward match-ups, especially along side the likes of a NyQueen and/or Mantha and AA, who would play any defense? Unless of course it comes with the qualifier that it will help this team suck more balls, lose more, and pour gasoline on the tank strategy.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 06/20/18 at 08:40 AM ET

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I think you guys forget that as of right now, there isn’t much in the way of Top Six potential talent in Grand Rapids.  The potential there has basically already been called up.

As RGEB said, who are you wanting to get a shot instead of Frk?  Turgeon?  Holmstrom?  Nastasiuk?

There’s nobody in GR banging on the door to DET, save for maybe Svechnikov who is already assumed to have a spot.  So you’re going to ditch Frk, who still maybe has some potential, to give one of the other guys who has not really shown anything yet a spot?

Makes no sense.  Maybe if there was a push from someone in GR but… there really isn’t one.

Posted by Primis on 06/20/18 at 08:46 AM ET

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