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Season Outlook For Gustav Nyquist

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

Perhaps no other Red Wing has suffered as much from the team's poor power play the past three seasons. Nyquist tallied 14 power-play goals and 24 power-play points in 2014-15, when Detroit's man-advantage ranked second in the NHL. In three seasons since, he has collected just 12 power-play goals and 29 power-play points.

He hasn't become the 30-goal scorer many projected after he tallied 28 and 27 goals, respectively, in his first two seasons.

Nyquist has spent a lot of time on Henrik Zetterberg's line. Whether or not Zetterberg returns, coach Jeff Blashill might opt to reunite Nyquist with Thomas Vanek and Darren Helm to start the season, a combination that clicked at the beginning of 2016-17.

The Red Wings are expected to use the first half of the season to determine Nyquist's future with the organization. With several skilled forwards in the pipeline and the high cost of signing Nyquist, they might opt to move him before the trade deadline. He has a no-trade clause, but he would probably agree to waive it to join a playoff-contending team.

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Perhaps no other Red Wing has suffered as much from the team’s poor power play the past three seasons.

Or has the team’s power play suffered from his lack of PP production and continued deployment despite not producing?  Kind of a chicken and the egg scenario.  I do like the idea of Nyquist with Thomas Vanek and Darren Helm as a line, preferably the 3rd line.  Hopefully they can trade Gus at or before the deadline to keep this “rebuild” on the fly flying along.

Posted by Steve1306 on 08/07/18 at 08:15 AM ET

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Kind of a chicken and the egg scenario.

Sure it is.

Hey, let’s all blame one of the only guys who scores for not scoring even more!

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 08/07/18 at 08:29 AM ET

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Exactly what I was thinking Steve.

I wish all the best for gus but I’d love to see him score 20 by the deadline and for us to trade him. If he’s on a line with Vanek, it could happen.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/07/18 at 09:10 AM ET

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For a rebuilding team it makes all the sense in the world to move Gus by the trade deadline. They can instantly save a bunch of salary cap space by using a younger/cheaper player to fill his role. That extra cap space can be used to acquire even more assets (take on a bad contract in exchange for picks) or to improve the defense.

Hopefully Gus starts out strong but Holland isn’t lulled into thinking the team is a serious competitior. Move him before the trade deadline so they don’t end up with a Green situation.

Posted by evileye on 08/07/18 at 09:32 AM ET

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For a rebuilding team it makes all the sense in the world to move Gus by the trade deadline. They can instantly save a bunch of salary cap space by using a younger/cheaper player to fill his role. That extra cap space can be used to acquire even more assets (take on a bad contract in exchange for picks) or to improve the defense.

Posted by evileye on 08/07/18 at 09:32 AM ET

I always would have preferred Nyquist go than Tatar.  At this point though no need to have either of them.

But yes, at this point Nyquist should be moved for picks/prospects.  Even (or perhaps especially) if he has a good year.

Posted by Primis on 08/07/18 at 09:44 AM ET

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Ansar Khan of Mlive from mid-February, 2018,

This team is trying to rebuild by stockpiling draft picks and moving in younger players. It would like to shed as much payroll as possible over the next couple of years. Signing a player who turns 29 on Sept. 1 to a lucrative deal could be counterproductive.

That’s why the Red Wings are likely to try to move Nyquist before next year’s trade deadline. A source confirmed the club will try to deal Nyquist or Tomas Tatar before this year’s deadline (Feb. 26).

It’s far from a sure thing, mainly because Nyquist has a no-trade clause, giving him control over where he goes, or even if he goes.

“That’s for sure a bonus for me, that I’m able to make that decision, to have that power,” Nyquist said.

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 08/07/18 at 09:50 AM ET

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Kind of a chicken and the egg scenario.
Posted by Steve1306 on 08/07/18 at 08:15 AM ET

Guy in front of me orders a chicken salad sandwich and an egg salad sandwich.  I said “you must be hungry”.  He says, “No, I just want to see which comes first.”


Nyquist won’t bring the haul that they got for Tatar (where’s the credit for Holland for fleecing Vegas?  And fleecing NYR and Philly too, for that matter) among other things being at the end of his contract.  But Detroit can’t sign another 30 year old to a 5 year contract and pretend to be trying to get younger and faster.  Unless the entire crop of young forwards looks hopelessly overrated and lost they should get what they can for Nyquist.

They’re going to lose a lot of games this year and next, no sense doing it with the same players who have lost a lot of games the last 3 years.

Posted by RWBill on 08/07/18 at 11:38 AM ET

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“No, I just want to see which comes first.”

My money is on whichever is the cock

Posted by Tripwire32 from Kay He Mar Heart on 08/07/18 at 12:59 PM ET

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Nyquist should have been traded.  Then we won’t have to worry about outlook.

Too inconsistent and soft to be in the PP, top 6

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 08/07/18 at 02:06 PM ET

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What we should really do, particularly if Z is gone, is pair him with Mantha and Larkin on the top line. Watch him produce, and trade his ass like we did with Tatar.

No way I want that guy getting re-signed next season.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 08/07/18 at 02:30 PM ET

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I am expecting Z retiring before 2019/20 season and I believe that would help KH not to be attached to Nyquist that much. Hope he has a great start to the season and gets traded at the deadline. We just need to convert as many 30+ year olds to picks.

Posted by VPalmer on 08/07/18 at 06:13 PM ET

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Hopefully Z moves on, he’s been a great player here but it’s time to evaluate our younger players and get them experience. Z burns up 1600 minutes every season that would be better served as much needed playing time for young players.

Posted by stateofmifan on 08/07/18 at 06:33 PM ET

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