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Report- Leafs Showing Interest In Luke Glendening

from Frank Seravalli of TSN,

It’s believed the Maple Leafs have kicked the tires again on Red Wings centre Luke Glendening this year, a Babcock favourite from his time in Detroit.

Glendening, 29, is the biggest mover on the latest edition of the TSN Trade Bait board, climbing up to No. 25.

He played under Babcock for parts of two seasons in Detroit, the type of scrappy fourth-line centre who has seen his minutes rise at playoff time.

Last year, the asking price from the Red Wings was believed to be a second-round pick, a price that was too rich for then-GM Lou Lamoriello’s blood.

This year, that price would seem to be the starting point, given that older rental Brian Boyle – who has not scored in his last two playoff runs – fetched a second-round pick from Nashville earlier this week.

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Nah, too good to be true.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/08/19 at 02:36 PM ET

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With eight goals and 10 assists for 18 points, Glendening is on pace to set new career-highs in goals, assists, points and time on ice (15:51)

Teehee smile

Posted by ilovehomers on 02/08/19 at 02:43 PM ET

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Luke has played his role quite nicely this year in my opinion. He is one of the few guys on this team that can win draws, he is a solid 3/4 defensive center who chips in the occasional goal…pure bonus.. I’ll take Glendening over Nielsen and his $$ contract.

If the wings were in a position to seriously compete, I would keep him, but their not, so if Kenny can get a 2nd round pick..or better??....then I move him.

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/08/19 at 02:47 PM ET

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the type of scrappy fourth-line centre who has seen his minutes rise at playoff time.

That’s an interesting take on it.

He’s appeared in three playoff seasons.
In 13/14, he averaged 16 seconds more per game in the playoffs than the regular season.
In 14/15, he averaged 48 seconds LESS per game in the playoffs than the regular season.
In 15/16, he averaged 121 seconds LESS per game in the playoffs than in the regular season.

Either way it really doesn’t matter because Holland is going to ask for the moon.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/08/19 at 03:06 PM ET

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At $1.8 Glen is probably more valuable to our team than Nyquist at $5-$6 mil KH will give him.

Posted by VPalmer on 02/08/19 at 03:07 PM ET

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At $1.8 Glen is probably more valuable

Yeah, because vastly overrated things like FO% are really, really super important to bottom rung teams.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/08/19 at 03:09 PM ET

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“However, if the Red Wings could be enticed to retain half of Glendening’s deal, he would provide cost certainty for the next two season”
Boy sounds like a great deal for Wings there Frank. Maybe Badcock will take his Piano too! I know Pianos are expensive to move, maybe Holland could pickup that tab also.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 02/08/19 at 03:35 PM ET

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I would love this deal specifically to watch Maple Leafs fans riot in every comment section across the internet.

Posted by Manthanasiou87 on 02/08/19 at 03:38 PM ET

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - LGD brings enough intangibles to be a keeper.  FO%, Hits, Blocks, and “all the little things” - there’s a reason Babs likes him.  I wouldn’t deal him at his cap hit.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 02/08/19 at 03:47 PM ET

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He’s the kind of player who can provide a lot of value in a deep playoff run.

I love watching him play; he’s got a great work ethic.

Posted by TreKronor on 02/08/19 at 04:04 PM ET

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At $1.8 Glen is probably more valuable to our team than Nyquist at $5-$6 mil KH will give him.

Posted by VPalmer on 02/08/19 at 02:07 PM ET

Strongly disagree.

Gustav Nyquist is just inside the top 60 scoring NHL forwards this season, and 21st among pure wingers. The market value for that level of production is pretty much bang on $6 million per year. He’s actually a pretty great bargain on his current deal ($4.75 million), unlike basically every other veteran on the entire roster.

Glenny’s “career year” is being driven by incredibly fortunate percentages (1058 PDO) and will probably not be repeated. $1.8 million is not horrible value for what he provides but I wouldn’t exactly call him a bargain either.

As much as one might admire his work ethic or toughness, it is not that difficult to replace what Glendening provides and if Toronto (or anyone else) is willing to offer a decent future piece for his services I think that’s a deal you have to make.

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 02/08/19 at 04:44 PM ET

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Luke is valuable simply because his cap hit is VERY manageable and he fills a vital role. Moving him for anything less than a second is likely a mistake because that pick is very unlikely to yield a player equivalent of better than Luke.

It sounds odd on the surface but this is what you get in a salary cap world. A player with a low salary, mediocre skills can be more valuable than a high salary medium level skills.

Posted by evileye on 02/08/19 at 04:55 PM ET

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Posted by VPalmer on 02/08/19 at 02:07 PM ET

I agree, Glen has been improving every year (only can shot backhand still)

Low maintenance, important 4th liner, PK,  shutdown some lines AND always gives 100%.

Nyquist will play better when wants out then go or get big bucks and go back to soft,, shot from the perimeter, never notice him on his shift. 

Maybe hard to move Nyquist as other teams notice his lack of effort .

My gut says he won’t be moved

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 02/08/19 at 05:51 PM ET

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It sounds odd on the surface but this is what you get in a salary cap world. A player with a low salary, mediocre skills can be more valuable than a high salary medium level skills.

Posted by evileye on 02/08/19 at 03:55 PM ET

With due respect, this is not new information. It’s pretty basic stuff. We’ve had a salary cap for more than a decade.

I don’t disagree that a worse player with a good contract is more valuable than a better player who is overpaid. I disagree that the scenario described applies to these two specific players.

I would not call Glendening’s $1.8 million contract “VERY manageable” and say that he “fills a vital role.” At best I think he’s paid fairly for what he is, which is a fourth line defensive specialist. I don’t hate his contract but I also think he’s massively overrated by a large segment of Red Wings fans. It wouldn’t be that hard to find an equivalent veteran for around the same price, or even find someone not quite as good but $1 million cheaper and invest the difference somewhere else in your roster.

Whereas I would argue that Nyquist is also pretty underrated by a lot of Red Wings fans, who are so disappointed he didn’t become the player they wanted him to be that they haven’t bothered to notice that $4.75 million is still pretty dang good value for the player he actually is.

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 02/08/19 at 06:07 PM ET

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Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids

How do I up-vote you? All well argued points, without being inflammatory.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 02/08/19 at 07:52 PM ET

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Gustav Nyquist is just inside the top 60 scoring NHL forwards this season,

Nyquist is in his contract year and will be 30. I would not even consider giving him another 5 year $25-30 mil deal. Just think of last year and the year before when everybody would gladly take a second rounder for him. I will predict this year would be the most productive year in Nyquist career, he will not be able to match it if he stays in Detroit.

Posted by VPalmer on 02/08/19 at 11:06 PM ET

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Luke’s stock is high right now so if Toronto wants him and the price is right make the trade. I think a lot of people over value Luke. He is better than most at face offs. Other than that I don’t think he is far and away better defensively than De la Rose or Ehn or Abby or Helm or Neilson. How many defensive specialists does the team need?

His deal is a little high but still fine. He still handles the puck like a live grenade however and having a forth line that can score in a pinch helps. Look at the grind line or McCarty, Draper, and Maltby. All of those guys had better offensive skills than the 4th liners we have now.

I am real happy with De la rose and if you can pick a guy like that off the waiver wire then trading Luke is an easy trade.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 02/09/19 at 02:14 AM ET

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