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Pleiness: Brunnstrom Experiment Likely Over

Via Red Wings Front,

Now Brunnstrom, 27, may be running into the wrong end of the numbers game with the Wings.

“We haven’t written him off, but we’ve got a couple of things in play,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said.

The numbers concern is the Wings’ 50-man roster limit and the fact they possibly may look to still add a different type of forward or two to Grand Rapids.

Detroit currently has 46 players under contract. That doesn’t include restricted free agents Kyle Quincey and Justin Abdelkader, both of whom will be signed sometime this offseason.

“We want to explore what’s out there,” Holland said. “I think Brunnstrom is a good player, but we need leadership, toughness down there. We’re exploring the market.”

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SYF's avatar

Jeebus, I hope the third time’s the charm with Brunner.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 07/06/12 at 07:29 PM ET

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Posted by SYF from a drunken Guinness blitz on 07/06/12 at 06:29 PM ET

Leino?, Brunnstrommm, now Damien Brunner?  3rd time.  Charm or Strikeout.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/06/12 at 07:41 PM ET

DrewBehr's avatar

If we think the Wings are going to be hurting, the Griffins are REEEEALLY going to be hurting this coming season. Looks like 7 of their top 10 point-getters will not be returning. Yikes.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 07/06/12 at 07:49 PM ET

perfection's avatar

let’s not forget the guy that’s supposed to be their veteran #1 goalie is also asking for a trade

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 07/06/12 at 07:51 PM ET

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Oh no, there are going to be changed to the farm team that missed the playoffs?!?!?!??!

Posted by Garth on 07/06/12 at 08:00 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Brunnstrom was billed as an experiment, wasn’t he?  I don’t remember any grandiose predictions where he was concerned. So maybe it didn’t work out.

I’m intrigued by Tick Tock saying, “...we’ve got a couple of things in play.”

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 07/06/12 at 08:27 PM ET

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Who cares if the pipe goes dry in GR.  We’ll just reload through free agency…

</sarcasm>

Posted by sabby on 07/06/12 at 08:29 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Damien Brunner lacrosse goal from behind the net.  Looks like Michigan’s Mike Legg in the 1996 NCAA tournament against Minnesota.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4TfnXlfsZY

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/06/12 at 08:47 PM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

As far as experiments are concerned the only one that I wanted finished was…. (Blasill)

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 07/06/12 at 09:19 PM ET

Primis's avatar

I’m disappointed.

Not in Brunnstrom, but in DET.  They didn’t seem to give him much of a shot in Detroit, and he played well enough in GR from what I saw.

Isn’t it funny how a guy like Leino got a lot of chances before DET washed their hands, but Brunnstrom didn’t?

Again, I’ll remind everyone to keep their expectations with Brunner very, very low.  If history is any indicator, he’ll have left back for Europe before Christmas after a so-so stint in GR.  He’s coming out of a lesser league that he didn’t exactly light up, and we don’t know what his own expectations are coming over.

Posted by Primis on 07/06/12 at 09:47 PM ET

shanetx's avatar

Isn’t it funny how a guy like Leino got a lot of chances before DET washed their hands, but Brunnstrom didn’t?

I think it’s fairly pointless to compare what the Wings did in 09 compared to 11.  Their roster wasn’t as stacked with interchangeable bottom six when Leino was on the team; he had more opportunity because of it.  Additionally, when Draper was the 4th line center the forth line actually played.  Not so much with Emmerton.

I don’t disagree that Brunnstrom deserved more of a chance and I really hoped he’d be brought back this year to get one, but the environment Leino saw isn’t a very good comparison.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 07/06/12 at 10:04 PM ET

PaulinMiamiBeach's avatar

translation: Brunnstrom is trade bait

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/06/12 at 10:20 PM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

translation: Brunnstrom is trade bait

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/06/12 at 09:20 PM ET

Yyyyyyyep.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 07/06/12 at 10:33 PM ET

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Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/06/12 at 09:20 PM ET

Nah, he’s a UFA.

Isn’t it funny how a guy like Leino got a lot of chances before DET washed their hands, but Brunnstrom didn’t?

No, not really, since they played at different times under different conditions with different Red Wings rosters…

Oh, and Detroit was Leino’s first NHL team whereas Brunnstrom had already been given a chance in the NHL, was sent down the the AHL, traded to another organization and eventually brought to Detroit on a pro tryout as a reclamation project with zero risk and they new that if he didn’t immediately prove himself at the NHL level he would be a good guy to have in the AHL.

Oh, and to keep him around, they had to re-sign Leino to a one-way contract, so they gave him about two thirds of the season because in order to send him down to Grand Rapids they would’ve had to pass him through waivers.

Wait, now that I think about it, yeah.  It really is kinda funny, isn’t it?  Heh.

Heheheheheheh

Hahahahahahaha

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sorry.  It just really did strike me as being terrible funny.

Posted by Garth on 07/06/12 at 10:35 PM ET

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Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/06/12 at 09:20 PM ET

What I’m hoping it means is that he told the management that he’d like to have a real chance to make the Wings this year and they told him that a) they’ve already got too many forwards, so there’s not likely to be a chance for him and b) even if they did have room they’re not going to once they make a deal for Bobby Ryan and then sign either Shane Doan or Alex Semin.

Posted by Garth on 07/06/12 at 10:39 PM ET

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Oh no, there are going to be changed to the farm team that missed the playoffs?!?!?!??!

To be fair, around 80% of GR’s troubles can be laid at the feet of the positively atrocious goaltending they’ve gotten.  Last year Pearce and McCollum split 47 games between them and were abysmal in pretty much all of them.  The year before that it was 66 (although Pearce was at least borderline competent that season).  In 2010 all of the goalies blew spectacularly.

McCollum completely failing left Detroit without any real goalie depth at the AHL level.  Hopefully Mrazek can make the jump McCollum can’t (or at least hasn’t yet, but my money is on can’t).

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/06/12 at 10:42 PM ET

Hippy Dave's avatar

He’ll do great in Sweden.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/06/12 at 11:11 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

He’ll do great in Sweden.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 07/06/12 at 10:11 PM ET

McCollum, Pearce, Brunnstrom, Brunner, Mrazek… which?  I guess Brunnstrom now that I’m not being a smart ass.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/06/12 at 11:21 PM ET

cementslinger's avatar

Leino?, Brunnstrommm, now Damien Brunner?  3rd time.  Charm or Strikeout.

Posted by RWBill from hiding indoors from Virginia heat. on 07/06/12 at 06:41 PM ET

Brunnstrommm wasn’t really our little project bitch.  But you could very possibly fill his slot in with Grigorenko.

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/07/12 at 09:13 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

Oh damn!  There’s another one.  He was the guy actually lucky to walk and skate again though,wasn’t he?  Nearly killed in an accident or something.  Well I don’t mind the Wings trying some players flying under the radar.  The youngsters who are rated 1 - 200 that are on everyone’s clipboard have a pretty low rate of success in the NHL too.  Anyone below the top 5 or 10 draft picks in any year has an uphill struggle just to make it to the NHL.  That’s why I don’t mind losing a draft pick or two for someone who already is a serviceable NHL player.

I’m not saying don’t build from within, but after player #3 or #10 quite often not much separates the next 200, and that’s where the Wings have been drafting for 20 years.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/07/12 at 10:29 AM ET

pgoody's avatar

I hope we sign Ryan just so we can have somebody on the team we can call Donkey Lips…

Posted by pgoody on 07/07/12 at 09:15 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

I’m not sure I see it, but at least it’s a unique handle.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/07/12 at 10:34 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Ryan, From Cherry Hill, NJ, 
home of Mary HIll, in the day she was, such a teaser,
but after dark she was, such a pleaser,
down at Cherry Hill Park.

Mary Hill was such a thrill after dark, down at Cherry Hill Park.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/07/12 at 10:42 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

This is what I mean RW…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjlpcYwbwUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMSHf79zlUk


notishhhhh anything…

Posted by pgoody on 07/07/12 at 10:51 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Shane Doan deserves better ending to free agency

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Rarely does an athlete come along who spends his entire career with one organization and in the process serves as leader, scorer, mentor, promoter.

Yet his 16-year stay in Arizona is at risk of ending because of an ownership mess that appears to be growing more complicated by the minute. And it’s not just the Kings who appear to have interest in Doan. Eleven teams have inquired about the player, his agent, Terry Bross, said Friday. New York, Detroit and Montreal are among the group, according to various reports.

Doan deserves better.

“It’s heartbreaking for him,” Bross said. “Heartbreaking.”

Bross reiterated Doan wants to stay with the Coyotes. He loves it here, his family loves it here and he has developed a profound connection with the organization.

“He’s such a loyal guy,” Bross said. “He views the team like it’s his own franchise, from the equipment manager to the trainer to the people taking tickets.”

The strong interest in Doan, who will be 36 in October, says a lot about what he contributes on and off the ice.

He has scored 20 or more goals 11 of the past 12 seasons and had 22 goals and 28 assists in 2011-12, plus nine more points in the postseason.

His leadership is also one of his great selling points and integral to the team advancing to the Western Conference finals.
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Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 07/08/12 at 11:43 AM ET

cementslinger's avatar

...I don’t mind losing a draft pick or two for someone who already is a serviceable NHL player.

Posted by RWBill from hiding indoors from Virginia heat. on 07/07/12 at 09:29 AM ET

Hellz yeah!

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/08/12 at 12:09 PM ET

SYF's avatar

As if those fuchers in DAL couldn’t be anymore goonish:

Stars prospects participate in MMA workouts.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 07/09/12 at 06:08 PM ET

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