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On The Heels of An A2Y Classic, It’s a Baby Brother Live Blog

It’s hard to predict what the cause will be.  It could be a playoff game, a winning streak, a playful joke played by the swaddled, babbling 8-pound, six-ounce Christ child on us, the unsuspecting innocent Wing fans (in other words, a losing streak). You just never know what’s going to prompt a Live Blog for the ages.  Friday night we brought Pinky back into the fray and I think that may have lit some sort of sick fire under the 19.  The result?

WestWing summed it up about midway through, and it just went downhill from here:

1) Bill would blow Wally the hairdresser, but maybe not Gator, although his daughter would.
2) Pumpkin beer sucks unless it’s filtered through a homeless drunk’s ass.
3) Calquake is the perfect antidote to that not-so-fresh feeling (i.e. when you smell like a homeless drunk’s ass)
4) Hudler goes both ways, and has apparently become really damn good at it.
5) Alcohol is a helluva drug.


Why do I think references to homeless drunks’ asses are going to become the norm?  Absolutely classic work.  Bravo to every one of you.  Anyone who doesn’t find that funny can just go ahead and suck it. But don’t leave because we’d like to make fun of you for the next several hours.

On to today.  Baby brother’s in town and we haven’t beaten that little bitch in Detroit in like two years. That is disgusting and it must end. Today. If the playoffs started this evening?

We’d get San Jose. That’s a whole other topic, an entire series of posts that would range from obscene overconfidence to gun-in-the-mouth pessimism.  But, with a loose puck here or a beer aerated through the crack of a homeless man’s ass there, it could easily be the Cawks in the first round. 

The wary among us would say that’s a bad matchup, the talented, young Hawks with the “strong core”.  The rest of us, actually all of us really, would say Chicago’s goaltending is so frigging bad that we’d go all Raylen Givens on their asses to the tune of 5 games. Max.

But that’s April.  Jesus. Just typing that reminded me the playoffs are only a month away. 

Fuccchhhhhh….ahhhh well.  It’s a Live Blog, bitches. 

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mrfluffy's avatar

How many times does he have to fall down before you’ll call a trip?

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/04/12 at 09:29 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Why?  Why pull JMac when we’ve absolutely shit with the five other extra man situations?

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 03/04/12 at 09:30 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Who the fuch are you passing to, Horse’s Ass???

Posted by SYF from fashionista dougie’s drunken iPhone on 03/04/12 at 06:27 PM ET

He is Mulesless.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/04/12 at 09:30 PM ET

VooX's avatar

How many times does he have to fall down before you’ll call a trip?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 03/04/12 at 06:29 PM ET

The answer, my friend, comes from blowing Li’l Gary’s dick.  The answer is blowing in his little dick.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 03/04/12 at 09:30 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Why pull JMac when we’ve absolutely shit with the five other extra man situations?

It’s the thought that counts?

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 03/04/12 at 09:30 PM ET

HockeyFanOhio's avatar

Well, final push.  Remember a couple of years ago when the Wings were down at the end of the game and you just knew they would find a way to win?  I don’t get that feeling anymore.

Posted by HockeyFanOhio from Central Ohio on 03/04/12 at 09:31 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

we need a hero

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/04/12 at 09:31 PM ET

SolidTG7's avatar

At least don’t pull him unless they have possession.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 03/04/12 at 09:31 PM ET

ITDeuce's avatar

An icing with your goalie pulled?  frack

Posted by ITDeuce from The Sunny High Desert on 03/04/12 at 09:32 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Icing.  Hahahahahahahaaaa…

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 03/04/12 at 09:32 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Why what happened 2009 game 7?

Posted by ITDeuce from The Land of Ice and Snow on 03/04/12 at 06:27 PM ET

My memory is that he turned it over twice right in front of Osgood for both Pittsburgh goals.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/04/12 at 09:32 PM ET

VooX's avatar

My memory is that he turned it over twice right in front of Osgood for both Pittsburgh goals.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/04/12 at 06:32 PM ET

It’s a good thing I have a horrible memory, or I’d be even more ornery than I already am.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

42jeff's avatar

whatever…guess I’ll finish vacuuming

Posted by 42jeff from The greater Howard City, MI metroplex on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Hell of a waste of a dominating game.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

What steal by the post for CHI.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

VooX's avatar

Franzen with the last minute effort with the empty net.  At least he waited for that last minute to put in some effort.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

scotts0's avatar

That last shot by Zetterberg was almost good.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 03/04/12 at 09:33 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Well Chicago was pretty damn lucky, and we drop to 4th.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/04/12 at 09:34 PM ET

dougie's avatar

And, that’s a wrap, folks. Hopefully we will have enough healthy bodies to ice a team in Philly Tuesday.

Posted by dougie on 03/04/12 at 09:34 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

see ya tue.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/04/12 at 09:35 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

deserved better than that.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the pre-season shuffle.... on 03/04/12 at 09:35 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Well that shit will happen.  Catch you bitches later.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/04/12 at 09:36 PM ET

Alzy's avatar

What a shit result for the effort put in. Final score should be something closer to 12-2 Detroit. If this is gonna be little brother’s strategy to try and win in the playoffs, I say bring them on. Getting absurdly lucky doesn’t work for seven games.

Posted by Alzy from Cambridge, Ontario, Canada on 03/04/12 at 09:36 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Pretty damned good game…and they lost. FWIW, all the shitfest games they won, I guess they have to give one up in reverse…and Shitcago is now 6-0-1 in Detroit the past 7 games…

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/04/12 at 09:37 PM ET

SYF's avatar

First star:  Goal post.
Second star:  Goal post.
Third star:  Goal post.

Rotated five defensemen after Kindl went down.  That’s just too much work.

A friggin’ regulation loss in our own building to the Cawks.  Sure as hell Shanahan gets a look at that Bickell cheap shot on Kronner in the second period.  A looonnng look.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 03/04/12 at 09:37 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

For a team that dominated in the faceoff circle, Detroit somehow managed to lose just about every crucial one.  The Wings totally faded in the third period, which has been an ongoing trend when trailing this season.

This game was a perfect example of why you need to be good on special teams.  Also a perfect example why I don’t particularly relish a playoff match-up against Chicago.  Every time they play them, the games seem to look exactly like this one did.  Detroit really struggles to score against them.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/04/12 at 09:38 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Remember a couple of years ago when the Wings were down at the end of the game and you just knew they would find a way to win?  I don’t get that feeling anymore.

Yeah, I think a lot of us feel that way.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/04/12 at 09:40 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Sure as hell Shanahan gets a look at that Bickell cheap shot on Kronner in the second period.  A looonnng look.

I wouldn’t hold your breath. Between Bickell’s elbow to Kronner’s head and Keith’s repeatedly decking the back of Fil’s head…I suspect Shanny will be too busy taking acting lessons.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/04/12 at 09:45 PM ET

Bent's avatar

Just finished watching the game, been busy all weekend.  Better team lost today, that’s for sure.  I have one wish for the wings, and that is a competant PP.  But they played good enough to win.  Oh, and fuch you Jobu.

Posted by Bent from The U.P. on 03/05/12 at 01:07 AM ET

42jeff's avatar

Well that shit will happen.  Catch you bitches later.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/04/12 at 06:36 PM ET

Riight…well until they stoppa that shit from happening…

THIS thing   does NOT happen.


yes.  I’m a dork.

Posted by 42jeff from The greater Howard City, MI metroplex on 03/05/12 at 02:38 AM ET

Primis's avatar

I won’t lie.

When the Wings hit 3 posts in the first, I groaned.  When Kindl was out, I got suspicious.  When the 2nd started with Joey in net… I flipped over to the MSU-OSU game and basically kept it there.  I already knew what was going to happen to the Wings.  That’s not to bash Joey in the least either… it’s just you could tell what was happening.

I’m honestly surprised that it ended only 2-1.

Here’s where we are at:  Either Babcock and his cronies need to get this PP fixed or they can all go find another job.  We’ve said it ad infinitum already that it’s not a lack of talent at fault, it’s a lack of understanding of what works on the PP and what doesn’t.

Dave Lewis won a President’s Trophy and was got bounced after only one year…. and his special teams were way better than this.  DET’s about to be bounced in the first round unless the PP is fixed, that’s all there is to it.

Posted by Primis on 03/05/12 at 10:09 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

DET’s about to be bounced in the first round unless the PP is fixed, that’s all there is to it.

Posted by Primis on 03/05/12 at 07:09 AM ET

Wait, what? 

I’d like to argue your point Primis, but I don’t necessarily disagree.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/12 at 11:16 AM ET

SYF's avatar

Posted by 42jeff from Minot, North Dakota on 03/04/12 at 11:38 PM ET

Minnie Driver’s friggin’ awesome.  Loved her in Phantom of the Opera and Grosse Pointe.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 03/05/12 at 02:44 PM ET

CaptainDennisPolonich's avatar

Fuching February. It sure took its sweet time getting here. I’ts like when those disgusting June Bugs show up in July. Just when you think you made it through unscathed… WHAM!

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 03/05/12 at 05:38 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

ROFL.

In 2011 the Stanley Cup Champions had the #14 of 16 power play conversion of all playoff teams. 

6 of the top 7 highest PP % teams in the playoffs were eliminated in the first round.

What did the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions have in common with the 2012 Red Wings? .. The best 5x5 GF:GA ratio in the playoffs.  They also had the best GA average in the playoffs.

Detroit stands at #1 5x5 in the league, by almost .2 goals per game, 1.58 : 1.00 compared to StL 1.41.

In 2010 the Champions had the #5 PP %.  In 2009 the Champions had the #7 PP %.

In 2008 the SC Champions had the playoff best 5x5 of 1.62.  They had the inept #9 PP at 18%.  They were the Detroit Red Wings.  They had a playoff best GA of just 1.86.

2007 the Champions had a weak 18% PP, but #2 5x5 and #3 GA.

You have to go back to 2006 before you find a team whose PP% ranking was better than its 5x5 ranking, and then its GA was #3.

Any references to playoff failure due to a weak PP are just unbased and silly.  PP% has never been linked to playoff success.  It is one of the most irrelevant team statistics to playoff success.

GA and 5x5 efficiency are closely linked with playoff success.

ROFL.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/05/12 at 11:47 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

The only thing Bill…is that the Wings players are getting run, knowing it’ll put the Wings on the PP, and that PP isn’t firing on even 4 or 8 cylinders. Opponents seem to know this and are taking the penalties anyway. Since the Wings aren’t like the *ucks or Canfucks and don’t goon their way through games, they need that PP threat to keep other teams somewhat honest, or their health may be in jeopardy.


But then again…I’m just a drafter working a block from the beach where the surfers smoke kush and the girlies…you get the idea.

I can’t even shred 250.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/06/12 at 12:53 AM ET

Primis's avatar

Any references to playoff failure due to a weak PP are just unbased and silly.  PP% has never been linked to playoff success.  It is one of the most irrelevant team statistics to playoff success.

GA and 5x5 efficiency are closely linked with playoff success.

ROFL.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/12 at 08:47 PM ET

Well they’re not scoring much 5x5 either.  So if you’re not scoring reliably 5x5, and not scoring at all on the PP… you do the math.

However, your stats miss the boat entirely.  If their PP is not working now, imagine how free teams are going to feel to take liberties with them then come April?

DET is 15th in the league in both PP and PK at the moment.  Scotty Bowman (a smart guy) once said the average of those two has to be a single-digit number to be a true contender.  DET’s also 20th in the league on road PP.  And 24th in the league on SHG Against.

DET’s PP is below 17%.  That’s still well below the “weak 18%” numbers you are citing.  They’re not in the Top Ten in the league either.  There’s a big difference between in Top 10 and out of it.

The PP is bad, and the PP is *not* irrelevant come playoff time.

Posted by Primis on 03/06/12 at 10:27 AM ET

monkey's avatar

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/12 at 08:47 PM ET

You’re speaking my language now, baby.

I’ve done similar research, not quite as in depth, and what I found was the single best indicators of Stanley Cup success based on regular season statistics/performance were Goals For, Goal Differential, and Conference seeding (a poor man’s Pure Points and Elo Chess).

Detroit currently ranks tied for first in their conference in Goals For (if they’re not scoring on the power play, and they’re not scoring 5x5, when are they scoring? 12 goals in their last three games, all short handed?), third in Goals Against, and first in Goal Differential, and are currently the fourth seed (St. Louis is overachieving).

There are other contenders, but Detroit is definitely one of them.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 03/06/12 at 11:10 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Half (of the 8) “true contenders” since the lockout have failed to make the conference finals with a Bowman Index score below 10.

5-on-5 effectiveness in the last six years has been a better predictor of playoff success than special teams.

Although the best solution is to be good at both so we don’t have to keep bickering (at least about this).

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/06/12 at 11:10 AM ET

Joe Z.'s avatar

i think this is the proper time to use the word gross

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 03/06/12 at 11:46 PM ET

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