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Justin Abdelkader Fits The Detroit Mode Moving Forward

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

Always a physical player, Abdelkader was credited with a team-high 174 hits.

“That’s probably his greatest strength, the ability to play in a lot of different situations,” coach Jeff Blashill said. “He can play in a shutdown role. He can be a complementary winger. A net-front presence. He brings physicality. He’s got good skill, he can play the power play. He can penalty kill.

“He definitely has that type of versatility and that’s important to have on a team.”

Going forward, as Blashill and his coaching staff incorporate a more pronounced hard-charging, north-south, forechecking style of play into the Red Wings’ style, a player such as Abelkader will become increasingly valuable.

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I have no issues with the play of Abdelkader, but I have an issue with his $4.25M cap hit thru 2022-23.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/23/18 at 02:27 PM ET

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So the Detroit mode moving forward is paying too much for too long to middling, complementary players?

Which means it’s the exact same mode Detroit has had over the past decade as they slid out of relevance.

Um, good?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 04/23/18 at 02:38 PM ET

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I have no issues with the play of Abdelkader, but I have an issue with his $4.25M cap hit thru 2022-23.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/23/18 at 02:27 PM ET

I also have an issue with Ken Holland cool smile

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/23/18 at 02:50 PM ET

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but I have an issue with his $4.25M cap hit thru 2022-23.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/23/18 at 02:27 PM ET

Agree!  But I think we are stuck with him, no takers at that salary

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 04/23/18 at 03:06 PM ET

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But I think we are stuck with him, no takers at that salary

The Wings are stuck with Abdelkader because their loser GM and incapable coach are so in love with him.

Seriously, they’re supposedly beginning a rebuild and the guy whose praises they’re singing right now is an overpaid third liner?

This really bodes well.

Can’t wait for summer 2020, for the *actual* rebuild to start in earnest.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 04/23/18 at 03:25 PM ET

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So the rebuild means trying to make fans think the current players on this team who are taking up space and money are actually good. Give me a break. Why not write a fluff piece on one of the kids?

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 04/23/18 at 04:10 PM ET

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Wait ... What ??
What am I missing ??

Does Abby barf up the puck in his own zone like Ericsson ??
No

Does he win most of the puck battles along the boards ??
Yes

Can he put he puck in the net given the opportunity when on the first or second line ??
Yes

Why do people insist on treating him like Brandon Inge ??
The guys got talent.  Granted, not $4.25 mil. worth the way they use him, but I have to agree with Wings management ... he’s very valuable to the team and should be a career Red Wing

If he scored more goals would it validate his salary ??
If he was making say $3.5 mil. per would it be less painful ??

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 04/23/18 at 06:18 PM ET

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“]Why not write a fluff piece on one of the kids?
“Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 04/23/18 at 04:10 PM ET

I read the story and thought it was a real fluff piece. Abby is supposed to be what the team is going forward? An overpaid sometimes physical winger with 13 goals for the year?  When we are trying to rebuild? That piece was bought and paid for by the Detroit Red Wings publicity department.

I read a column by a Montreal Canadians beat writer where he graded the team. He gave them mostly F’s, including Corey Price. There was another writer for the National Post ( a country wide newspaper) where he called out the Canadians General Manager.  I was a Wings fan in the goods times and I will be a Wings fan in the down times but I don’t need some writer trying to tell me the team is good right now because they aren’t.

Posted by Mackster from Eastern Canada on 04/23/18 at 06:54 PM ET

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That should read Carey Price.

Posted by Mackster from Eastern Canada on 04/23/18 at 07:04 PM ET

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So lets see
old…check
slow…check
overpaid…check
can’t score…check

Yep definitely perfect for KH’s Red Wings

Posted by akwingsfan on 04/23/18 at 10:10 PM ET

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Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 04/23/18 at 06:18 PM ET

Since Pavel Datsyuk left, Justin Abdelkader has played 139 games and scored 11 even strength goals. That is less than one ES goal every 12 games.

But setting that aside for the moment, the problem with any of these guys—Abdelkader, Helm, Nielsen, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Daley, Howard, Glendening, etc.—isn’t that they’re necessarily terrible players with no usefulness to an NHL team. The problem is that Holland drastically overrated and overvalued what they provide, and then committed to them long term.

You can get away with doing that one or two times, especially if the player you’re overpaying provides a skillset that you can’t easily replace any other way (e.g., Green). But when you do that for basically half of your entire team, you end up with a “great group of guys” who can’t score, can’t defend, can’t come close to keeping up with the NHL’s best—and no cap room to do anything about it, unless you trade away some of the guys who actually are more valuable (e.g. Tatar).

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 04/24/18 at 08:50 AM ET

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The Wings are stuck with Abdelkader because their loser GM and incapable coach are so in love with him.

Seriously, they’re supposedly beginning a rebuild and the guy whose praises they’re singing right now is an overpaid third liner?

This really bodes well.

Can’t wait for summer 2020, for the *actual* rebuild to start in earnest.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 04/23/18 at 03:25 PM ET

Wow, who would have thought that the only reason Abdelkader is on the team is because the “loser” GM and “incapable” coach want him there. Not because his contract is untradeable or anything.

Can you go one post without bashing management, or are you “incapable” of that?

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 04/24/18 at 09:12 AM ET

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If he scored more goals would it validate his salary ??

YES

If he was making say $3.5 mil. per would it be less painful ??

YES

But you forgot a couple more.

Abdekader is signed through 22-23 and has a NTC. OUCH

He’s a decent but not great forward. Holland overpaid in terms of money, term and clauses for the guy. Did anyone seriously think he’d get that term on the open market? Giving him that sort of term should have allowed the Wings to retain him at less $$$.

This isn’t Holland’s biggest mistake. But it is a costly one and could get worse if his performance drops.

 

Posted by evileye on 04/24/18 at 11:59 AM ET

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Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 04/23/18 at 06:18 PM ET

I agree, and yes, $3.5MM a year and 1 year less term, his deal was market. If/when the team returns to the post season, you need a guy with that kind of size, considering the mix of smaller players we previously had.  e’s in a leadership role, he’s a guy who gets a mic in his face, he’s a face (albeit ugly) of the team in the community.  Sports is not only a team but a business, compared to others like Helm and DDK, Ablekater’s contract is no an issue to me. 

Funny, people had a lot less issue with Tomas (sit on bench) Tatar’s contract, when signed, and after, yet does anyone think Hall of Fame Coaching Legend Gallant would bench Ablekater for dry spell in the goal department in the playoffs?

Its all relative money and stats drive the conversation for casual fans.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 04/24/18 at 01:33 PM ET

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Wow, who would have thought that the only reason Abdelkader is on the team is because the “loser” GM and “incapable” coach want him there. Not because his contract is untradeable or anything.

Can you go one post without bashing management, or are you “incapable” of that?

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 04/24/18 at 09:12 AM ET


Who gave him the contract?


But anyway, as others have said, a smaller number, less years and no NTC would have made his deal bearable. GMKH decided to pay a premium and now the team will pay for it. The guy is 31, for a gritty player who relies on grinding I wouldn’t expect to see output suddenly surge now that he’s getting older. Probably more injuries as time goes on too.

Posted by MZ2215 on 04/24/18 at 01:42 PM ET

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Smaller number, less years and no NTC would have made his deal bearable. (INSERT BLANK) GM decided to pay a premium and now the team will pay for it.

Posted by MZ2215 on 04/24/18 at 01:42 PM ET

Hmm… you’ve just described about 60 maybe 70% of every UFA contract signed in the last few years. I know we like to point out the 30% positive, but many are on the opposite side especially later in the deal than the early gratification.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 04/24/18 at 03:27 PM ET

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Hmm… you’ve just described about 60 maybe 70% of every UFA contract signed in the last few years. I know we like to point out the 30% positive, but many are on the opposite side especially later in the deal than the early gratification.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 04/24/18 at 03:27 PM ET

Some get too much term, some get too much money, some get unwarranted NMC/NTC’s. Based on https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses/ it looks like Detroit is leading the way with NTC/NMCs, and I think it’s fair to say they’ve overpaid and over-termed just about every FA they’ve signed. But by all means, we can downplay it and just say “everyone else makes bad deals too, be nice to the idiots we have in charge”

Posted by MZ2215 on 04/25/18 at 07:05 AM ET

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