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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog

Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting.  Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:

Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?

Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?

My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year.  I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left.  Nothing.  If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"?  He might as well get something for Datsyuk.  Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes.  We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one.  But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.

If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.

Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons.  That's a long time.  We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated.  That's us.  And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing.  We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.

But the players?  I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out.  But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring.  He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure.  He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment. 

It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap.  Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again.  Seriously.  

It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down.  Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.  

Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available?  All bets are off.  

All of that is the future.  This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard.  The playoffs are still...a consideration.  They are.  And if you make it, well shit.  You never know.  And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.  

Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite.  It must.  

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stonehands-78's avatar

Thanks the vegans and their gluton free menus

No fat-asses allowed.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:35 PM ET

ah, right ...

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 09:39 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

Why does the broadcast always look like its on Sega Genesis in Rexall Place?

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 03/15/13 at 09:39 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

so jimmy had great numbers against da oilers. and the wings have this fantastic record against the oilers.

7-2 oilers tonight? the wings get two pp goals.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 09:39 PM ET

Gary A$$ SUCK !!'s avatar

Hejsan Svejsan !!! 

Let’s Go Red Wings Clap Clap Clap !!

Posted by Gary A$$ SUCK !! from Fort Myers, Florida on 03/15/13 at 09:40 PM ET

calquake's avatar

7-2 oilers tonight? the wings get two pp goals.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 09:39 PM ET

Yes, because that’s what’s important?

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:41 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

If Smith would get it in his head that hes not Bobby Orr, I think hed be alright

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:41 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

8-11-63
Much more appropriate.

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:41 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

14 with 13 first shift.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 09:41 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Perhaps the Wings have #8 up with Pavel to try to polish the turd for trade bait. Other than that…I have no clue….

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:36 PM ET

He hasn’t lived up to expectations after getting $$$. Trading him would be my guess.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 09:42 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

Really enjoying the not HD feed from CenterIce, even though I paid for it.  Right Gary?

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 03/15/13 at 09:42 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Thats it Mick, Babs would move Abby down to help the 3rd line

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:43 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

Weak!

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:43 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

there is the first.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 09:43 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Ole - Matador

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 09:43 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

UGH

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 09:43 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

jimmy still not feeling well?

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 09:44 PM ET

klank's avatar

right this way down the red carpet, Taylor.

Posted by klank from the finest hot tub in Marin on 03/15/13 at 09:44 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Jeebus Christo! Not again. Come the FUCH on!

Lets Fo Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 09:44 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

For fuch sakes, Abby cant even make a 5 foot pass

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:45 PM ET

calquake's avatar

The Wings are getting a mindset that they’re not comfortable unless they’re down a goal or two.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:45 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

if you’re a rookie that’s not INT

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 09:45 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Ouch.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 09:46 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Whore!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 09:47 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

I should do myself a favor and just go to bed now….

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:47 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

PP Kill it WIngs, You ALL can do it!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 09:47 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Whore!

I know… but it was after the fact.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:48 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Checkin in ....just in from the kids Lacrosse game. They are 6-2 on the season. 

Now it’s Hockeyball Night at Rumbear Manor. 

Trade rumbles???......gimme a sack of pucks and some new CCM’s.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 09:49 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Good kill, gentlemen.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:50 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Did we spot them a goal before the game started or did the Oil actually score?

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 09:50 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

This is the most quiet game I’ve ever watched.  Everyone in hibernation in Edmonton?

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:52 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

Again…dump the puck to change….always throwing the puck to the other team in the offensive zone. That’s just bass-ackwards!

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:53 PM ET

calquake's avatar

This is the most quiet game I’ve ever watched.

It’s Helen Keller Appreciation Night.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:53 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

Really enjoying the not HD feed from CenterIce, even though I paid for it.  Right Gary?

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 03/15/13 at 09:42 PM ET

preach

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/15/13 at 09:53 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Passes to sticks would be preferable to skates….

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 09:54 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

It’s Helen Keller Appreciation Night.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:53 PM ET

Hah!

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:54 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

wE lOOK gREAT

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 09:54 PM ET

RorSchach's avatar

Paging the Red Wings. Paging the 2008 Red Wings.

Posted by RorSchach from Datsberg on 03/15/13 at 09:55 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

Did we spot them a goal before the game started or did the Oil actually score?

jimmy still feeling the effects of the flu, rummie.

made hall look like #99 from between the circles

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 09:55 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

It’s Helen Keller Appreciation Night.
   
    Posted by
     
    calquake
     
      on 03/15/13 at 09:53 PM ET

As in, only Helen Keller could appreciate this brand of hockey?

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:55 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Hey Ken said he knows what it takes to WIN, maybe the Wings should hire him as a Consultant…... in addition to his broadcasting skills.

Go Wings!!!!!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 09:56 PM ET

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