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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog

Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting.  Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:

Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?

Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?

My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year.  I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left.  Nothing.  If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"?  He might as well get something for Datsyuk.  Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes.  We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one.  But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.

If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.

Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons.  That's a long time.  We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated.  That's us.  And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing.  We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.

But the players?  I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out.  But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring.  He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure.  He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment. 

It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap.  Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again.  Seriously.  

It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down.  Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.  

Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available?  All bets are off.  

All of that is the future.  This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard.  The playoffs are still...a consideration.  They are.  And if you make it, well shit.  You never know.  And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.  

Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite.  It must.  

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Little Redhead's avatar

JIMMAH

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Wow! Save! Jimmah!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:50 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Me too… for one lost college year.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:49 PM ET

That four year degree was the best seven years of my life.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, with 3 fingers of rum & a cigar.. on 03/15/13 at 10:51 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

I feel like the OIlers have slowed down, not so much we’ve sped up.

Lucky to be in the game, but at least we’re in it.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/15/13 at 10:52 PM ET

calquake's avatar

“Solid, solid, solid says Mickey.  $5 mil a year solid?  I don’t know.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:52 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

‘he who shall not be named is down’

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Great, an injury…..

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, with 3 fingers of rum & a cigar.. on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

O.T.  (1 point)

Lets get another Point!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:59 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

One point, the hard way

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 10:59 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

One point….success.  Ima out.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, with 3 fingers of rum & a cigar.. on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

got 1,

now let’s get another ...

make it a 2 point game, boys.

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

A point.Yah. Now get the other.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

this is like picking up the 7 - 10 split.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:01 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

Wings playing their equivalent of what, 10 pm?  They’re losing this one.  I hope it’s OT though and we can at least snag a point.

I’ll be watching 2, 22, 25 and 52 tonight.

Whatever happened to Brunner?  Started off so hot…  maybe we have another Franzen lol, wouldn’t that be our luck.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/15/13 at 04:46 PM ET


I scare myself sometimes.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/15/13 at 11:03 PM ET

calquake's avatar

I scare myself sometimes.

Don’t worry… you scare us too. cheese

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:04 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Nyquist making a pavel like spin - Nice!
Keep at it!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:05 PM ET

calquake's avatar

WHAT A GOAL!!!!!!

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

wow!

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

#13!

Enjoy it while we can, folks.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Wow

Magically Delicious

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOO HOO
WINGS WIN

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

PASHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAGIC!!!!

3-2

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

klank's avatar

Datsosyk!

Posted by klank from the finest hot tub in Marin on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

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Just…wow

Posted by GR Joe on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Magically-the greatest player in the entire World-Pavelicious!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Happy Happy Birthday Cigar Nurse!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

the next three goals are HUGE

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:17 PM ET

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:08 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

The last three goals were huge!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:08 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

And thanks Mule for helping complete the play. Nice delay and pass.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 11:09 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Thanks to all you east coaster Wingaholics… you are the best… bitches.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:09 PM ET

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And back to Datsyuk!

L.G.R.W!!!

Posted by RayzorFlash on 03/15/13 at 11:09 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

03:39 Pavel Datsyuk (9) Snap Shot - Assists: N. Kronwall (16)

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:09 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

That was worth staying up for… 2 pts.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 11:10 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Thanks to all you east coaster Wingaholics… you are the best… bitches.

Posted by calquake on 03/16/13 at 12:09 AM ET

You are welcome fellow Wingaholic!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

 

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:10 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:11 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Thank you Pavs.It’s a little dusty in here. Back at er tomorrow 19. You’ve been a wonderful audience tonight.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:11 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Back atcha left coasters.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:13 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Datsyuk made that win happen in more ways than just the game winner. He was everywhere.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:13 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Datsyuk made that win happen in more ways than just the game winner. He was everywhere.

Where there’s a will… there’s a Datsyuk.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:15 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

I wonder if he is the interview on On The Fly?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:15 PM ET

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