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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog

Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting.  Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:

Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?

Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?

My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year.  I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left.  Nothing.  If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"?  He might as well get something for Datsyuk.  Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes.  We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one.  But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.

If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.

Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons.  That's a long time.  We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated.  That's us.  And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing.  We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.

But the players?  I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out.  But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring.  He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure.  He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment. 

It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap.  Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again.  Seriously.  

It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down.  Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.  

Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available?  All bets are off.  

All of that is the future.  This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard.  The playoffs are still...a consideration.  They are.  And if you make it, well shit.  You never know.  And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.  

Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite.  It must.  

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calquake's avatar

I have five tickets for the Wings vs Ducks game next Friday….may have to wear a bag over my head.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 11:23 PM ET

With your luck, Duck fans will think you’re the Unknown Comic and ask for a performance.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:26 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

well what do you know

1-2

a little life yet, boys.

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:26 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Cleary sucks.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:27 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

My kid used to wet the bed…...from the hallway-The Unknown Comic.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:29 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

With your luck, Duck fans will think you’re the Unknown Comic and ask for a performance.

I want my chillern to see the awesomeness that is the 8-13-11 line.  They will have stories for their kids.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:30 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Franzen = invisible man

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:30 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

04:27 Valtteri Filppula (6) Backhand - Assists: none

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:31 PM ET

calquake's avatar

My kid used to wet the bed…...from the hallway-The Unknown Comic.

Ba dum bum… she’ll be here all week folks!  Don’t forget to tip the wait staff.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:31 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Just seventeen more days to Tigers baseball?  Who cares, I’m a Wingaholic.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:18 PM ET


Well, I happen to have multiple addictions.  Dammit, where’d I put my drink?

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 11:34 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

These refs need to put the whistles in their pockets ... or some other convenient place.  Let Em Play!!

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:34 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Come on Wings, Score on this PP.

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:35 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

The Mick chastiseing the pp.  Put em on the bench.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:36 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

SCORING CHANGE

04:27 Valtteri Filppula (6) Backhand - Assists: H. Zetterberg (22)

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:36 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Wait…blocked by Franzen???/But, but we are the ones shootin…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:37 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Mule is fuching useless

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:37 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Fuchin’ Moose.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:37 PM ET

calquake's avatar

It is very surreal to watch the Wings work so hard on the PP and not score.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:38 PM ET

Yzersyuk's avatar

Roller coaster of emotions today. Work sucks. Then work is over, then the red wings are down 2-0 to the frickin oil. Now they’re down 2-1. Actually its mostly all suck. L.G.R.W

Posted by Yzersyuk on 03/15/13 at 11:38 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Mule-sless.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:38 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Remember what it feels like to score three goals in a game?

I didn’t think so.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 11:40 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Well… there’s always the Canucks tomorrow….


WHAT?

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:41 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

How is that icing?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:42 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Jimmah

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:43 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Mike Brown, Optimist. 

Already has his playoff beard.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:45 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Zata… thank dog.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:45 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…....................................on a PP

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:46 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Come on Wings!!!!! Shoot, Shoot, SCORE

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:46 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Own Goal

Wow

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:46 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

2-2

new game

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:46 PM ET

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Didn’t seem that long ago that as a defenseman you actually had to hustle down after the puck to get the icing call.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 03/15/13 at 11:46 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Half of their road PP goal total have come on “own goals”.  Who the hell else in the league can make that claim?

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 11:47 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEE! Or Kronner ?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:47 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

wE mIGHT gET a pOINT!!!!!


Wrecks All Place…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:47 PM ET

calquake's avatar

I’ll take it.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:47 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Ken. Shut. Whore. Mouth. Now!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:48 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

14:07 Niklas Kronwall 5 (power play) (Unassisted)

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:48 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Thanks peaches son. We needed that. One more please.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:48 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Horry Crap…an Oakland University commercial….I committed felonies there…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 11:48 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Horry Crap…an Oakland University commercial….I committed felonies there…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 11:48 PM ET

Me too… for one lost college year.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:49 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

James.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:49 PM ET

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