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Daring Digger: St. James First To Mention Franzen Trade Possibility

Helene St. James is going crazy. It must be the uncommon early Spring boredom that’s got her all redolent.  She’s out there though, right on a limb.  And there’s no hotter topic these days than the streaky Moose.


Johan Franzen did not have a good series, scoring one goal in five games despite playing next to Pavel Datsyuk. Franzen has eight years remaining on his contract, but his salary cap hit is a reasonable $3.9 million and his actual salary over the last three years is a combined $4 million, which would be attractive to teams worried about reaching the NHL’s minimum salary cap space requirement.

Don’t get all giddy. The whole article is NOT devoted to trading Franzen. That would be porn.  It’s mostly about money (butt tons), free agents (Parise, Parise, PARISE) and alibis in the event that he fails again this summer (“We’re in the process of trying to become deeper, but it doesn’t happen overnight,” Holland said.).


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RWBill's avatar

I think we should start copying all our posts from TMR over to A2Y, and vice versa.  To wit;

To: Mr. Holland,
    Please spend some farking G.D. money!
                                    Devoted Red Wings Fans!
Posted by NIVO on 04/26/12 at 02:19 PM ET

By all means!  The old paradigm ( hey! I used paradigm in a sentence! ) when Hossa was picked up that no one could make more money than Lidstrom must be cast aside.

Suter or Parise?  $7, $7.5, $8M ?  Ahh, Ok!  If we don’t do it someone else will, or worse, Suter will stay in our Division in Nashville for a little less. 

Replace Hudler with NyQuil? gonna be a learning curve but save $3M.  Much rather have Parise and Nyquist than overpaying for Hudler, or more accurately, matching market price for Hudler.  Sounds silly seeing as he was the second leading goal scorer.

Of course, it looks silly typing that Franzen was the leading goal scorer.

Posted by RWBill on 04/26/12 at 06:09 PM ET

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Brandon Inge released by Tigers.  Holmstrom next Detroit long timer to go?

Posted by RWBill on 04/27/12 at 12:51 AM ET


According to Trotz the team they are facing in the second round (Phoenix) is deeper up front than the Red Wings. Some perspective on how RW are viewed now.
Nsh - Phx is on. I know one thing: a goal will be scored tonight.

Posted by Alex on 04/27/12 at 11:19 PM ET


Vrbata is one good sniper. Can we get him? Trade or something?

Posted by Alex on 04/27/12 at 11:25 PM ET

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Vrbata is one good sniper. Can we get him? Trade or something?

Posted by Alex on 04/27/12 at 09:25 PM ET

I’m afraid that ship, as the saying goes, has already sailed.  Vrbata was a UFA last summer, who ultimately re-signed with Phoenix for less than Jonny Ericsson money.  I’m sure KH kicked the tires though before deciding that money would be better spent at the trade deadline.

For those who continue to rationalize a) that there were no available UFAs last sumer who would have been top six quality, and b) that none who were available would have been affordable, I always counter with the names Radim Vrbata and Michael Ryder.  Both have the combination of size and skill Detroit seems to desperately need, both scored over 30 goals this past season and both were available for right around the money we gave to E52.

Detroit actually had the cap space to sign both yet ultimately chose to pursue neither.  But it wasn’t because either player was ridiculously over-priced. 
What it shows is that there were good values to be had last summer.  Kudos to those GMs that did their homework and signed them instead of manufacturing excuses as to why they supposedly couldn’t.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 04/28/12 at 04:26 PM ET

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Why is it that the teams that beat us in the playoffs get completely exposed the very next round?

Posted by pgoody on 04/29/12 at 11:21 PM ET

dougie's avatar

Because we aren’t that hard to beat lately?

Posted by dougie on 04/30/12 at 10:06 AM ET

monkey's avatar

Well, on the bright side, whoever said Rinne would be a sieve in the second round is so far looking pretty smart.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 04/30/12 at 10:33 PM ET

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The Kings are reminding me of the 2008 Wings team. Plenty of skill willing to get dirty to score goals, and good grinding from the lower lines…teamed with timely stops.

The Bitches are falling apart, and it’s brilliant. Typical Hitchcock team. Get away with shit and win in the regular season with great goaltending, and the second the goalies start to let them down they implode…or the second a team starts hitting back they run around in circles.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 05/01/12 at 01:43 AM ET

WestWing's avatar

It’s not just Rinne.  I said before the playoffs started that Trashville was way over-rated.  I watched them play a lot the last six weeks of the season, mostly to see what all the hyperventilating about what a juggernaut they’d become was all about, and they were thoroughly mediocre.  Detroit was the only team that made them look good.

You want proof? 

Their record after the trade deadline against the rest of the league is 9-9-1, and they allow almost three goals against per game.  Their record against Detroit over that same span?  6-1 with a GAA well under two.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 05/01/12 at 01:49 PM ET

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Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 05/01/12 at 11:49 AM ET

I was thinking the other day about the problem inherent in building a team designed only to be able to beat another team.  Once the other team is out of the way, your skills are worthless.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 05/02/12 at 09:49 AM ET

WestWing's avatar

Honestly though, the Prednecks didn’t exactly look like they were all that well designed to beat Detroit.  There were numerous defensive breakdowns—the same type of lapses they seem to suffer on an almost nightly basis—but the Wings, unlike other teams, had no net presence and one who could bury their chances.

To me it looked less like a case of a team tailored to beat the Wings, but more a matter of a Detroit team lacking confidence.  Let’s face it, the Red Wings made a lot of teams look better than they are the final two months of the season.  The fact that Trashville caught them and passed them in the standings ultimately had little to do with how well they were playing (see my previous post—they were basically little more than a .500 team themselves) but had everything to do with the Wings playing so poorly that the Prednecks were only required to play just slightly above average hockey down the stretch in order to catch them.

From all of this of course, the media anointed them kings of the universe.  My point being that they are an above average, but ultimately very flawed hockey team. No more, no less.  The first two games of the Phoenix series merely confirm—they are who I thought they were.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 05/02/12 at 01:49 PM ET


Radulov and A. Kostitsyn were disciplined by the Preds for violating the team’s curfew when they stayed late in a Phoenix bar and are out of game 3. LOL

Now, if they had grabbed someone’s head and banged it into the boards they would have been playing. It’s never late for two soft Russians to learn an NHL lesson .

Posted by Alex on 05/02/12 at 10:45 PM ET

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